Monday, September 17, 2007
Propaganda as a Tool
Propaganda posters like the one above are common tools used in time of war by all countries to persuade people to act or think a certain way. Propaganda posters were used not only to justify involvement in the war but also to procure men and resources to sustain military campaign. Along with recruitment posters commonly urged wartime saving and openly called for funds through War Bonds.
Visit the link below, view several of the posters and comment on the following. What are the emotions and ideals the poster's try to evoke in the audience? Do you think the manipulation of information for this purpose is justified during war? What is the difference, if any, between propaganda and advertising? Can you think of any examples of current propaganda?
http://www.firstworldwar.com/posters/canada.htm
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propaganda used to lure men into the army was rightous. BUt today propaganda is used to annoy people and it works. MOst advertising these days are stupid based on comedy and I see them 5000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 times a day.
it saddens me to know someone out there actually finds these comerials entertaining. HOw much money did you spend making the comerial? 8grand?10grand? to what?
I think it wrong making people feel guilty to make them go to war,
it should be outlawed because it shows war as good fun and all around great, but it fails to show the truth of how bad and terrible war realy is
All the posters claim victory and winning. It wasn't really fair to claim victory to get people to enroll in the war. They weren't showing the real deal. However, if they did, few brave souls would have felt eager to join the military.
The posters are trying to get the men to feel safe and ready to fight for honour.
Propaganda and advertising go hand in hand, they are one and the same. Propaganda is a form of advertising.
Current propaganda is in the fact that the US is prolonging the war. They want more fighting, and they keep saying things like 'TERRORISTS!'
War isn't cool, I think they should never have justice to glorify it to get more recruits.
AM Block 1
It's frustrating reading some of those posters because the only images they show are the images of guys with guns in their hands, and then dancing with some ladies, and other stuff that is pointless. Sure, you get to be a hero or whatever but you might go crazy or die or get injured, and they never show any of those images. They don't tell you the truth about how horrible it is and how traumatizing watching your best friend die!
I think they should let the people who are volunteering understand a bit of what they're getting themselves into.
I think there's a small difference between propaganda and advertising. At least with advertising they have SOME of the real facts in there, but I guess there's a lot of propaganda in those advertisements.
mu
period 1
I think the posters are making it seem like if you don't support the war your not a Canadian. They're using patriotism and nationalism to bribe people into going to war. During the war it was probably considered completely normal for people to actually want to fight and the military campaigns were just like any other advertisements. The difference between propaganda and advertisements is that propaganda urges you to do something for someone, while advertisements urge you to buy something. Propaganda is found on television today in commercials for teenagers to join the Canadian Forces.
M.B.
blk A
It's a campain using reverse phycology and trick them into wanting to go to war, do i think that is proper?, no not really I think that it isnt right to make people feel as if its only right to go to war.
AK~~
Progranda this way is wrong.
They try to lure men with happy pictures about feeling happy and lucky to defend Britain. They have no idea what its like to be in the war, so they don't know any better. They have to live in trenches, watch their friends and comrades drop to the ground beside them, dead. These posters fail to mention all of those things. They are all about them winning and being victorious, they never said anything about losing.
dn, blk 1
The poster seems to advertise the war, trying to convince the public that the war is great and they should enter in order to win and that there is adventure and honours to those who fight.
That is a multiple answer question, the justification for the governments actions are undecided wether they where good or bad, yes a countless number of lives where lost, but countless more would be if the war was left unchecked and uncontrolled.
The only thing different between them is the topic they discuss, in the end they both can be either truth or lies.
Currently, Canada is being pressured into going to war, but the people of today wish for peace and know as a fact that the war is not theirs but the ideas of a tyrant.
By.
Jay Dee
The posters try to make people feel guilty about not going to war. They try make war look fun and dont tell what really happens there.
J.S Block A
The emotions in the propaganda posters are usually cheery showing the honor of going to battle. The posters usually only show victory none of the brutal outcomes of defeat. I don't think it's wrong to use propaganda because if your stupid enough to fall for all the "ohh happy victory" stuff than I guess you should be going to war. Theres not much of a diffrence between propaganda and advertising. Propaganda is a trying to spread rumors or information to the nation to pretty much harm another group or recruit soldiers to harm the group. Advertising is more truthful (sometimes) and is used to announce in some kind of communication for someone to buy or introduce them to a new product. Some current propaganda is being help in Iraq and the US for war efforts.
D.U
Blk.A
I think that propaganda was just a way to sell things for people to go to war and saying that its good for young people to go and risk there lives.
It also looked like that killing people was a great thing that was happening in the world around that time and racism and put downs towards other people didnt really matter.
JK
I don't think it is good way to make this kind of poster to make people to participate in the war.
It shows as if war was all about fun and enjoyble that only make people hero when they return.
It doesn't show how wretched and painful it is to be in the war.
Social 11 Block jL
i dont think its right trying to lure people into going to war and trying to make them guilty because they chose not too.. they try to make it sound like its a good thing to go to war and risk being killed everyday! its really not
CC period 2..
I think that it is not right to tyy an make some one join the army just beacause of a message that says they should or thries to confuse them into going. If they wanted to go to war they would already be their supporting our country. K.K.
Propaganda is used everywhere in the world including flyers and paper adds that want you to purchase or go somewhere mainly with hidden costs or risks. This method was used to basically gather men to fight for the army. These people were offered so many benefits that they were thought to be dumb if they didnt go and use these awesome options. I think it is wrong to give someone stereotypes to force them into something that they would not other wise choose to attend...M.I .Period B
Propaganda posters are a tool used to lure people into helping their country in war. I think this is fine becasue people should be serving their country in a time of crisis. These posters make those who dont want to go to war to protect their country feel bad. I think they should if they arent serving their country proud. They should be protecting their family and their country whenever they can.
-A.T.
-Blk 2
I don't think it is good way to make this kind of poster to make people to participate in the war.
It shows as if war was all about fun and enjoyble that only make people hero when they return.
It doesn't show how wretched and painful it is to be in the war.
Social 11 Block jL
The emotions and ideas that these posters try to evoke the audience are that Canadians should participate in the war. That by doing so you are helping your country and that your fighting for Canada's liberty and your own as well.I don't think its justified because you shouldn't make people feel that they have to do something that they don't want to do and if they don't do it make them feel that they are not honoring their country.
I think that there isn't a lot of difference between propaganda and advertising. Both of these sources of information only tell the positive side of what they are advertising and leave out the negative.
by P.A.
I don't think it is good way to make this kind of poster to make people to participate in the war.
It shows as if war was all about fun and enjoyble that only make people hero when they return.
It doesn't show how wretched and painful it is to be in the war.
Social 11 Block jL
well.....the way i see, the government has ideas that anyone in there right mind would disagree with...with that they have to find ways to make there ideas marketable...with this you get propaganda...with propaganda from posters trying convince people to hide in some trenches full of blood, and high chance to die (of course not shown in the poster), to commercials on tv trying to get you to pick up there latest products..It's just marketing..
In my opinion people stupid enough to fall for this deserve what's coming to them, let alone the air they've already breathed...But then it depends on how propaganda is portrayed. Like trying to fill the cold war with daffodiles, and shit..this lying to the people basically, that is unjustified..
pretty long eh?
L.G
Most of these propaganda posters are trying to glorify war and sell victory bonds. I don't think that using propaganda is justified at all because it blatantly misleads and misinforms the public just so a few people can get what they want. I don't think that propaganda is really similar to regular advertising much at all, mostly because if you misinform people in your commercials you could get in trouble.
NR, Block B
Propaganda was a harsh way of getting someone to do something. Making a poster saying how you should come to this and you should come do that is just wrong, and stupid. Posters like your mates are fighting in the war why arent you? is just a way to make someone feel bad for not going. It makes them feel obligated to go and do the things that they probably really dont want to do. Even now I stil see signs saying try this new pill everyone is useing it. Let people make there own desicisions and be who they want to be. Nobody wants to be the same as everybody so let them make their own choices
B.M. Block 2
Propaganda posters are an attempt to evoke a sense of Nationalism. People are lured to do the governments 'biding' by playing the 'save your country' card.
People enjoy knowing they're doing something for their nation.
I don't believe such things can justified even in a time of crisis. If the recruit isn't informed about what he or she is actually enlisting for it's unfair. However Propaganda is used all the time now especialy in the the US.
Z.A
Blk 2.
"We must remember that in time of war what is said on the enemy’s side of the front is always propaganda, and what is said on our side of the front is truth and righteousness, the cause of humanity and a crusade for peace."
-Walter Lippmann
I believe every conflict is fought on at least two grounds: the battlefield and the minds of the people through use of propaganda. The “good guys” and the “bad guys” can often both be guilty of misleading their people with distortions, exaggerations, subjectivity, inaccuracy and even fabrications, in order to receive support and a sense of legitimacy.
CM period 2
this propaganda is a lie!! it drives people to go to war. it doesnt portray the bad things that will happen to the war because if they do people will not go anymore! people will now know that things are so bad in the actual war..it is really a bad commercial! all commercials are really just to pursuade people!!!
L.G
period 2
The posters are meant to say that war is not as bad as they seem to be, so that men think it would be glory to fight for your own country and even if die its the best you can do for your country. They said you should be blamed if you don't go to war.
I think this is NEVER justified because government is lying.
Differences between advertising and propaganda are that advertising doesn't bring you into trouble like propaganda, e.g. you won't die if you trust ads blind but if you du so to propaganda the chance is very high to die. another difference between those two is that ads are mostly kind of funny so that you easy know if its true or not.
m.s. blk 2
The posters almost make it seem like they are guaranteed victory and at most all that will happen is you might get hurt. They make you think that it will 'help' your country if you go. It's just stupid, who'd goto war expecting to come out perfectly fine? They twisted the info just to get people to fight, which worked, but is wrong. Advertising today still isn't truthful but it gets some of the facts right. It may not tell you that you go to war you may get killed but it does still say "fight for your country"
LB, Blk 2
The ideals and emotions that the poster's try and evoke is a feeling of guilt. The posters are trying to manipulate the people to go to war, by glorifying the images on the posters. Nothing better to do in a sense, I might as well fight for my country, go to war. A hesitation to participate, but an obligation.
I think the manipulation of information for this purpose is not justified during the war. It is plain propaganda, deceiving the people to believe there is something to gain from the war, pride or a feeling of identity from "fighting for what you believe in," other than the truth, which is devatation and death.
The difference between propaganda and advertising is advertising is announcing or praising a product in order to induce people to buy it. It is however harmless. You can believe it as propaganda, or as a product you have the choice to purchase or not. Propaganda,is the deliberat spread of information,or ideas to falsely lure people, into participating in something that could cause them harm.
I'm not sure what kinds of propaganda there are today, but there could still be propaganda, concering participation in the wars today. A belief toward how to look or act, and so on.
R.D.Block 2
nda
The Goverments used Propaganda to persuade the minds of all thier citezens. That the war was not as bad as it really was. Consequently the people who didnt pay attention to the fact that thier friends or family out there were not coming home desided that they should join up.
DA BLk B
I dont think it is fair that the posters lure people into war by saying it is fun and heroic, but they always fail to mention the fact that your goign to see your friends and maybe even family die before you
K Andrews
Period 3
using propaganda to get guys to join the army back in the day was a good idea...but in the world we live in today there is too much propaganda and it is frigin anoing and advitersing get dumber and dumbver every day...C.B.
The posters inforce the idea that war is a adventerous fun activity
and completely lacks any form of reality.
People who see the poster who arent
fighting in the war will be made to feel guilty weak and
unpatriotic.
propaganda like this today is in almost everything even canadian navy shows these messages of being a stronger better person these commercials too lack realism.
A.Z.C block c
I think making people feel guilty to go towar iscompletely wrong and it shouldnt be aloud.It's dumb how they just show it to be fun and everything but they dont show the reall side like horrible death and torture
I think that the propaganda posters were a good idea because without them there would have been less intrest in volunteering for the war and the outcome could have been completely different.
C.M. - period 3
I think the posters are a right thing to do during this time. Without them, less people would be in the army which could mean a loss
S.B. - Period 3
I think making people feel guilty to go towar iscompletely wrong and it shouldnt be aloud.It's dumb how they just show it to be fun and everything but they dont show the reall side like horrible death and torture
DC weeeeeeoooooooooooooooooooooooo
I think that it is just wrong to make people believe they should be going to war because of a Propaganda Poster. They should be able to decide on their own whether they want to go to war or not.
v.v. blk C
Propaganda lured men into the army by unhonest ways but was probably the best way to secure men into the army at the time. People should be able to decide whether or not they should go to war and if they're liking what they see on the poster then they should go for it. It is totally up to them.
M.W.
Period 3
The propoganda used was an unfair tool. The posters are used to bring young people to enlist because they believed that war was was fame and glory, when in actuality it was killing and death.
J.S. Block 2
I think propaganda is used to make people feel overwhelmed with guilt... or too happy or so sad that either way, your mind wasnt thinking correctly. the posters/commercials of whatever sort would manipulate you into feeling something else-so you felt you HAD to go and do something.
AE-11.
Propaganda i think was wrong, it was used to presuade men into going to war, an if they didn't they were to feel guilty.To make people belive that the war was " fun" in such a way by the posters was wrong. The soldiers who went to war usualy had no choice an to make posters, showing that the war was fun, is an insult to the men who went.
M.L
Block 3
thw poster is a wrong way of getting people to join the war. it doesn't show the posible casualties that could happen. propaganda as well doesn't tell u the just of it. it is a way of convincing people with out showing them the reality of it.
S.T. b 1
the poster is a wrong way of getting people to join the war. it doesn't show the posible casualties that could happen. propaganda as well doesn't tell u the just of it. it is a way of convincing people with out showing them the reality of it.
S.T. block 3
I think that its stupid how they were trying to get these men to join the army when it was horrible and they made it sound like it was the best thing.
LG block 3
Propaganda posters were a well used device in the time of war and I personally think that it was a very encouraging way to convince men to commit themselves to battle and for women to volunteer their time and dedication to helping the troops. Propaganda posters may have been thought as a distraught way of encouraging people to give up their chance of living, but can you think of any better way back in the 1900's of getting people to sign up to fight for their country like a real citizen? I dont think so. If we didnt have this advertising how would we even have enough men in our troops and barely the numbers of women to care for them. There are always pro's and con's to every decision/action, and I think that there are more pro's to these posters because without them no one would have a clue what kind of circumstances their country was about to face.
D.P. Block 3
Propaganda is an effective tool to make people believe in something but i think it is somewhat wrong to manipulate people like that and preety much brain washes the people by showing them images that support the war or what ever it is being used for. Propaganda is still very important today because when ever you turn on the T.V telling you something is the best, maybe we are used to the idea of propaganda so much that it is not as effective as before but on the other hand if someone waves a candy bar in your face long enough sooner or later your going to want it
The posters are trying to evoke patriotic feelings in their audience. Hoping that they will be persuaded to go to war for their country, for the glory, and for their families along with all the Canadian soldiers already fighting. I do not think that war should be glorified, and is in now way justified during war when men are being sent overseas to be slaughtered. Propaganda and advertising are mostly the same, they both manipulate you into wanting something you would have otherwise not wanted. There is plenty of propaganda all around us, call it cruel but that show you see every so often where they show you the pictures of starving kids in africa and tell you to send money. Sure its a good cause and i've got nothing against it, but they make you feel guilty manipulate you into sending money overseas when there are starving families in Prince George.
blC BG
I think using propaganda as a way to make people go to war and fight for thier country is a good way to get soldiers but families of the men may think that is is wrong. Men are usually the provider of most homes and in the 1800's - 1900's that was the most common due to no womans rights.
How would the family survive and keep on living if the man of the house was killed in war.
Yes its a good way to recurit soldiers but the makers of these posters arent looking out for the rest of the family.
Also its an easy way to have men encouraged to fight in a war.
JK
Block c
These posters are a sign of desperation and encouragement. Thousands of soldiers were being killed and volunteers were becoming scarce. Posters like this one encourage young men and women to join the war because it says that's "the right thing to do". Young men were eager to go to war and adventure or so they thought. It wasn't long before they found that more than half of them were going to die.Being naive, they didn't realize that war is a serious business,there were other ways to die if you weren't shot first.These posters helped increase the flow of volunteers-not by much-.
I think making people feel guilty to go towar is completely wrong and it shouldn't be aloud. I also hate the way that propaganda urges you to do something for someone.
I think making people feel guilty to go towar is completely wrong and it shouldn't be aloud. I also hate the way that propaganda urges you to do something for someone.
GM Block C
this poster tries to make the people feel guilty if they dont go to war. i dont think they should have munipulated the people into volenteering for the war. they wanted to potray the people as soilders if they did go, but they didnt mention the conditions of war, the killing and the fact that you will be seeing your fellow soilders and friends being killed.
cp period 3
the difference between propaganda and advertising is that propaganda makes you to do something for someone and advertising while advertisements makes you to buy something. Propaganda is found on television for teenagers to join the Canadian Forces.
GM block C
Propaganda displays victory and courage and having honour. Men look at these posters and want to be heros, and they want the glory. its just like a girl looking at a beautiful women on a magazine. That girl wants to be her. Other men may feel guilty that there are others dying for their country while they sit on their buts at home and drink coffee. The posters are trying to manipulate these men to go to war, by making it seem really great. So these men will feel an obligation to go.
J.D. blk 3
They're using patriotism and nationalism to bribe people into going to war and not telling them what happens in the wars.
GM block C
propaganda back then, is different then what it is now. They use it for commercials for fast food and toys and trying to get to younger kids to buy their stuff. back then, atleast there was a purpose...to fight for your country and thats what the posters were saying, not go buy a happy meal...
there was a point to those posters and people that went to war are sooo brave and crazy:)
K.A. blk-c
These posters try to evoke feelings of guilt and try to make the viewers feel as if they are needed and with out their contribution the war efforts will be wasted. No, I dont believe maniputlation for this purpose is justified for war. I believe people should participate in the war if they like after the are fully informed. Propoganda and advertising differ because propoganda usually is a government agenda and not just to profit a company or to sell a product. However it is a fine line between propoganda and advertisement. I still see propoganda for war recruitment especially in the United States on television commericals with slogans such as "be all that you can be" implying only at the army can you reach your full potential.
-NG
Its sad how the government could care less about how a persons life could turn out. for the government to lie to people, especially men, about going to war is sickning. the poster the goverment made clearly portrays war as being a good thing, and the fact that it can get you where you want to be, and so many people signed up for war thinking it was going to be a great time, lots of adventure, a little danger, and soon enough it would be done and they would all go home happly as heros, but they were sadley mistaken because way more than half never made it home.how dose that make the canadian government look. clearly they didnt think about the fact that when people figured out what war was realy like the government would be have a clear and true label of "liars", but they probably didnt think of that because they knew that alot of canadians would not come home to there familys to tell them about how the posters had lied, and how none of it was true. anyone that did make it home was to busy paying off medical debts, or trying to take care of themselfs and there familys to worry about how they were betrayed. propaganda is trying to persway people to do certain things and advertising is a way of putting certain things out in the open. both can be bad, some worse then others. curent propaganda....they still make those posters in the U.S. dont they?
M.B. P#2
I think that it makes people feel guilty so that they'll go to war. It shouldn't be allowed because it shows that war is some great fun thing that everyones going to do. But really tons of people lost their lives fighting and war is a terrible thing.
AB
Block A
I think persuading people to go to war is wrong. These posters arent accurate and they lie! It doesnt show the truth. People who volunteer to go to the war should know what they are getting thereselves into. I dont think there is alot of propaganda in commercials these days. There is probably some about Iraq and the United States trying to get them to help with war.
K.C
The posters are trying to make it look like after the war, they could come up with ways to help people along, by finding jobs, getting health benefits. They also make you think that joining the army, you will be fine in the end.. I think the information is just there to make the wartime not look like a negitive thing. Advertising is when you display the honest truth about an event or product, propiganda is a lie, or a stretch of the truth on the event or item. Some propaganda now would be like in the magazines you see at stores, telling things about famous people, and events going on.
SB
The posters try to envoke a sense of motivation to go into the war. It was for getting people to help with the war, but it was wrong to try to con them into it. It made it look like the war wasnt that bad. The difference between propaganda and advertisements are that the propaganda was to get people to fight in the war with a strech of the situaton , and advertisements are for trying to sell products and get them out there, to make a profit.
CC
Block A
I think that that the proaganda posters tried to make people feel eager to join the war and if not that guilty that there not over there fighting for there country. They would show false images of soldiers dancing with girls and seeing other countries and exploring and show the pride that some with fighting, but never actual fighting or blood and death and disease and hardship.
Todays propoganda is alot towards anti terrorism and standing up for whats right but never the real truth about the oil that the U.s wants.
Propaganda is a tool used to advertise to the people to go fight in the war or to smoke a certain brand of cigarette but it is also a form of lie cause they only show the good things never the bad.
block A
S.D
I think that propaganda posters in world war 1 were unfair because it incourges more wars. It makes people feel bad too, because they think that they should be in the war. S.D
the posters try to envok people to go to war saying the the war is better than it really is. no i dont think it is justified during the war becasue they were giving wrong information and people died becasue of it. the difference between proporganda and advertising is proporganda is telling you fauls informantion. current proporganda is the same to day the army is try to get people to join up still.
T.Q. block A
Propaganda is bad.....
M. Hemeryck
The emotions that are aimed for witht eh poster are Nationalism and Pride. I think the justification of Propaganda is different from person to person. I think its a dirty way of attracting people but it is and should be allowed. I think propaganda is a form of advertising. Current propagandas include the Iraq and Afgan wars where the U.S. manipulated news in those countries and ours to show a "good" light on them being there.
E.L. Block C
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